1- Introduction

Dear brothers and dear friends, we would like to put at your disposal an excerpt from the interview of British Author and Speaker David Icke, which demonstrates that the so-called Coronavirus pandemic that is currently paralyzing the whole world is a big scam of the agents of Hell who rule this world. The real purpose of this sad comedy is to finalize the project of the New World Order that these luciferians have begun since, but which according to their projection, had fallen far behind.

As we have been telling you for several years now, we are living in the end times, and in accordance with Biblical prophecies, the whole world will soon turn into an unprecedented dictatorship, with all human freedoms confiscated. We are about to enter what the Bible calls the reign of the antichrist, a reign in which cash will disappear, and every inhabitant of the earth in order to live or survive will be forced to accept a chip either on the hand or on the forehead. For all of you who have never heard of this subject, we advise you to read chapter 13 of the book of Revelation, which is the last book of the Bible, or the Teaching entitled “The Mark of the Beast”, which you will find on website in the Rapture Section.

This interview with David Icke by journalist Brian Rose of the London Real news channel will give you a good understanding of what is hidden behind this lie of the century, called Covid-19. The text is in five parts. We advise you to read it in full.

[Beginning of Interview]

2- Covid-19 does not Exist

Brian: I’m Brian Rose. My guest today is David Icke, the English writer and public speaker known since the 1990s as a professional conspiracy researcher, calling yourself a full time investigator into who and what is really controlling the world. You are the author of 21 books and 10 DVD, and have lectured in over 25 countries speaking live for up to 10 hours to huge audiences, filling stadiums like Wembley Arena. You are here for the second occasion today to talk about the Covid-19 pandemic and global lockdown, the looming economic recession, the impact of 5G technology and the violations of our rights and freedoms of speech. David, welcome back to London Real.

David: Thank you, Brian.

Brian: It’s been 19 days since you last came on the show. Since then, we are told that millions of people have been infected worldwide with this disease, with deaths now approaching 100 000. Nearly 3 billion people are locked down in their homes. Markets are off 30% and a global recession is pending. Our last conversation went, quite frankly, viral, David. Over 7 million views that I can count, the most comments of any episode in London Real history, which tells me one thing, that people want to hear your opinion and people want to hear the truth.

David, as you know, I don’t agree with everything you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. And at a time in this country when the regulator, Ofcom, is banning media outlets from talking about the “5G Corona virus, conspiracy theories”, I get very concerned. A lot of people told me not to do this interview today, again. But in America, where I’m from, the First Amendment of the Constitution is the right to free speech and freedom of the press. And that right is being violated right now as we speak. George Orwell, in his famous book, 1984, said, “In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. And David, that’s what we’re going to do today. Honestly, I didn’t even know if we’d make it to this moment. I thought we might be shut down today. Where do we start? Is there a virus?

David: Since we last spoke, Brian, I’ve spent every waking moment, which has been most of every 24 hours, devouring information from virologists, specialists, doctors all around the world – in America, in Germany, in Austria, Italy – who would never be allowed to get near the BBC or CNN, because they are demolishing the official story of this hoax. And if people go to when this interview is over, I’ve put a special posting of a series of videos; it says “For viewers to London Real”, a series of videos by these doctors and others who in their various ways support all the elements of what I’m going to say today. So, this is not me pulling it out the ether. There’s no point in that. What’s the point? You either deal with facts and what people who should know say, or you don’t.

So, this is the headline to start with, which will shock a lot of people, I’m sure. There is no Covid-19. It doesn’t exist.And I’m going to explain today why that is and how therefore a pandemic perception could be pulled off. Now, one of the doctors that I’ve been looking at is called Andrew Kaufman. He is a medical doctor in America. He works in psychiatry now. And he, like a lot of these doctors you’ll never see on the BBC, started looking at the sequence of events that’s led us to where we are now. And this is how it went.

People started getting ill for whatever reason in China. And the Chinese authorities took genetic material from the fluid in the lungs of people who got ill, only a few, a very small number; and they found what we would call genetic material. It wasn’t an isolated virus. It was genetic material, which can be there from a long list of causes, including lung cancer. And they decided that what was causing the illness was a virus, which has got the name Covid-19. But at no time did they isolate that so-called virus from the rest of the genetic material, much of which will be found in the bodies of most people.

So they start out before they started testing, diagnosing people in China from symptoms. And you will have heard this constantly recurring theme about Coronavirus or Covid-19, because there’s lots of coronaviruses, Covid-19 symptoms. And you’ll hear this recurring line, “Flu-like symptoms”. Now, these flu-like symptoms can be caused by a great range of different causes. But they decided on symptoms which could come from many different causes. But those symptoms were now Covid-19. So you had flu-like symptoms Covid-19, Covid-19, and so the numbers got bigger and bigger. And when we get to 5G, there is another element to this, which I also want to talk about in relation to China and in relation to the West as well.

They then developed this test or start using this test to test for Covid-19, and it’s called RT-PCR test. It doesn’t test for Covid-19. It tests for the genetic material, which has loads of different content, caused by many, many, many different possible causes. And if you test positive for the genetic material, not Covid-19, you are diagnosed to have Covid-19. And if you die, to have died from it.

Now let’s look at this RT-PCR test. It was developed, invented by a guy called Kary Mullis, a biochemist in America in 1984. And it’s used to try to diagnose many things. The same test has been used to try to diagnose lung cancer. The same test of genetic material that they are saying, “You test positive, you’ve got Covid-19”. Now, what did this Kary Mullis say? The inventor of the test, what did he say? “This test should not be used to diagnose infectious disease.” The inventor of it said that. What are they doing to tell us who has and has not got this so-called Covid-19? The test that he said shouldn’t be used for that very thing.

3- This is Why People Always Test Positive for Coronavirus

David: So, you test for this genetic material and you’ve got Covid-19, but there’s another part of this. What this test does is it amplifies the material. In other words, it makes it larger. And as it gets larger in the cycles of amplification, what you say is causing the disease gets bigger, and you can see it more. But all the other content of the genetic material also gets amplified. And loads of this genetic material is already in the body of virtually everybody. And this is how the test works. You can fix the figures so easy like this.

You do say, 30, 35 cycles of amplification. You’re going to bring into the test positive, a series of things within that genetic material that become there to be seen at that level. So you’re going to get some positives, which you’re going to call Covid-19. But you’re going to get some negatives, because you haven’t brought all that material into the testing process. But you amplify the genetic material, say, 60 times. You have brought so much of the content of the genetic material to be entering the test process that, at that level of amplification, virtually everybody will test positive because all the genetic material that’s in most people’s body will now be testing positive in the test through this greater amplification. This means that the number of cycles of amplification you use in different countries dictates how many positive tests you get. Therefore, all you’ve got to do is increase the amplification, and you’re going to get more and more positives and you’re going to call them Covid-19.

Brian: And amplification is how sensitive that test is.

David: Imagine you’ve got something the size of a pin symbolically, pinhead. You can’t really understand it because it’s so small, you amplify it and it becomes much greater and you can now start looking at different elements of it.

Brian: And that’s what the test does. It amplifies that.

David: And another thing is that in 1890, Robert Koch, who was a bacteriologist and physician, developed something called the Koch’s postulates, and these were four criteria for proving that an agent, a so-called infectious agent, is the cause of what you say it is. This includes, one, that everyone who is subject to this agent has the same symptoms. Two, that you have isolated this agent, call it a virus, bacteria, whatever, you’ve isolated it, so there’s no other material, only that; so there’s no contamination, there’s no false positives in the way I’ve described, you are only isolating that. Three, when you take that and you, say, inject it into a living host, that host will get what you say that is causing. And when you’ve got that host, you are able, four, to take that material you say is causing the illness, the infectious illness, out of the person and again inject it into someone else, and they will get it.

In terms of Covid-19, not one single one of those four Koch’s postulates, which have been used since 1890 by mainstream medicine the world over to prove that this is infecting and causing that, not one of them have been used and fulfilled, none of them. So then we come to something else that Andrew Kaufman identified, which was a tremendous piece of observation and research. You can see it in his video on when this is over. What happens when a cell gets poisoned is it secretes something called exosomes. This is part of the natural, everyday immune system response to poisoned cells. And these exosomes, as they are released and they’re only released when the cell is poisoned, and it can be poisoned for many, many reasons, it can be toxicity; it can also be poisoned through stress and fear.

Can you imagine the stress and fear that’s going on in the world now, during this lockdown? It can be caused by disease, infection. And it can be caused by electromagnetic fields, which will become very relevant when we get into 5G. So these exosomes are released, and one of the roles of exosomes is poisoned cells warning other cells as they travel around, “There is a problem. Get ready. Look, there’s a problem here”. So, all you have to do to get exosomes released is to have poisoned cells by these various reasons. What Kaufman started looking at was, under the microscope, pictures of exosomes, what they look like. And then, he looked at an under-the-microscope picture of what is claimed to be Covid-19. These two were exactly the same.

He then starts looking at the genetic makeup of the exosomes, which you will find in the lung fluid of people who have problems with their lungs because the problems are generating the release of exosomes; and he looked at the genetic makeup claimed for Covid-19. They are exactly the same in every relevant way. An exosome and so-called Covid-19 even lock into the same cell receptors as each other. They are, as Kaufman has clearly shown, the same thing. So what’s gone on here is they’ve taken a natural response mechanism of the body immune system to poisonous cells, and they’ve renamed it Covid-19. Now, this genetic material they’ve taken from the lungs of people and that is the basis of this test will contain, by its very nature, these exosomes. So, they’re finding a natural human immune system response mechanism, this secretion from poisoned cells, and they’re calling it Covid-19.

4- The Real Reason behind the Covid-19 Victims’ Number

And because anyone who has any level of cellular toxicity is going to produce these exosomes, then the potential for positive tests, yes, Covid-19 is a pandemic, is endless. This global cult that I have been exposing for 30 years that is pushing the world towards this global, fascist, Orwellian state, which I’ve been saying was coming for 30 years has no borders. It operates in every country in the shadows. Politicians are just here today, gone tomorrow. That’s always there. China is one of its biggest centres, along with America, Israel, Britain, Germany, Italy, and so just follow this sequence through.

They decide in China early on, and there’s a 5G element to this, which we’ll get into later, that is a virus. They don’t isolate the virus, they test it, or they diagnose it, first of all, only on symptoms, and then they start testing, and they use this test which is testing for genetic material, not Covid-19. And then it starts moving out into the West. And Western doctors, nurses, medical professionals, etc. are told this Covid-19 is moving out. World Health Organization, “It’s a pandemic!” And we’ll get into who owns the World Health Organization later. “And these are the symptoms”. So what did they start doing? Anyone with flu-like symptoms now gets diagnosed Covid-19, purely on freaking symptoms. And so the numbers start to go up.

The problem is that this is supposed to be a deadly virus. But there’s not enough people dying to justify that description. So, this is what they start doing. Anyone who gets ill for any reason whatsoever, by the way, even falling down the freaking stairs, and goes to hospital, they now get tested for Covid-19. Now, because they’re testing for genetic material, which is in lots of people’s bodies, they get lots of positives. And although they’re in hospital for late stage cancer, for heart disease and heart failure and for other caused flu-like symptoms, if they’ve tested positive for Covid-19, when they die, they are diagnosed as having died officially from Covid-19. This is why you are having more and more people, families, loved ones, saying, “My family member”, whatever, “has been diagnosed as having died from Covid-19, and they didn’t. They died from this, they died from that; they’ve had it for ages.”

Great example. For people around the world watching this, there was a famous comedian called Eddie Large in a comedy duo called Little and Large. And Eddie Large has had a heart problem for a while, it seems. And he goes into hospital with heart failure. While he’s in hospital, he gets diagnosed with Covid-19, because they tested him. And when he died, the wording in the papers, in the media was that Eddie Large died in hospital after testing positive for Covid-19. He died of a failing heart, but Covid-19 will be the diagnosis. And the numbers keep going up.

5- The Media are Lying about the Number of Deaths from Covid-19

Brian: You’re saying the total numbers of deaths in the world has not changed anomalously but we’ve reclassified them as Covid-19 because they tested positive. And you said the language is interesting because they don’t say they died from Covid-19, but they say they died after testing positive to Covid-19.

David: This is interesting. I’ve been making this point now for some many days. Watch the media language as they used with Eddie Large. Overwhelmingly, they’re not saying that this person or this number have died from Covid-19. Very difficult to die from something you can’t even prove exists. They say, this is the wording and you see it repeated all the time, “This person or this number died after testing positive for Covid-19”, not that they died from it. But look at the implication. Oh, Eddie Large died from Covid-19. Oh, everyone’s getting it. And so, you have control of the figures by the way you transfer symptoms from other causes to “You’ve got Covid-19”. You control the figures by the way you test, not for Covid-19, but for a genetic material. And you control the death figures by who you designate as died from Covid-19 when they’ve died from other things.

People are being designated to have died from Covid-19 who have late stage cancer. And here’s a figure for you, Brian. This is official figures from the Italian medical establishment, what we would call in Britain the National Health Service. Ninety-nine percent of people who have died from Covid-19 in Italy, 99%, have had one, two, three or more other health problems for which they were in hospital or for which they were suffering. And so it’s so easy to take people dying of other things and to then designate them Covid-19. This is not to say all the nurses and all the doctors are in on it. You only need a hierarchy to say this is what you have to do, and they do it. This is how it works.

The last time I looked, the death figures from all causes in Europe overall and in the United Kingdom had not risen compared with last year, etc. to the extent that they even begin to encompass all the people we are told are dying from Covid-19. And the reason is that (but that could change for reasons I’ll come to when we get to 5G), vastly more people are not dying. They’re being redesignated to have died from Covid-19 when they’ve died from other things. Now, let’s look at Lombardy, which is the centre of the Italian outbreak, which has been such a focus of attention, and the rest of Europe in the Western world has been frightened to death, oh we could be Italy next ( NEXT TO COME PART 2)

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